{"id":5302,"date":"2026-07-09T09:05:25","date_gmt":"2026-07-09T09:05:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/relocationtimess.com\/?p=5302"},"modified":"2026-07-09T09:05:25","modified_gmt":"2026-07-09T09:05:25","slug":"exclusive-epstein-survivors-say-his-former-assistant-lesley-groff-lied-to-congress-about-key-details","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/relocationtimess.com\/?p=5302","title":{"rendered":"Exclusive: Epstein survivors say his former assistant Lesley Groff lied to Congress about key details"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\n Lesley Groff, Jeffrey Epstein\u2019s longtime assistant, told members of Congress last month that she never met any of the girls and young women who provided massages to Epstein and that she didn\u2019t know anything about their backgrounds \u2013 including how old they were.\n <\/p>

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\n Some Epstein survivors say that Groff was not telling the truth.\n <\/p>\n

\n In interviews with CNN, multiple Epstein victims, including four women who spoke on record and two who shared their accounts anonymously, took issue with various aspects of Groff\u2019s recent testimony to lawmakers. They described meeting Groff in person, discussing with Groff how old they were and being directly paid by Epstein\u2019s assistant of 18 years \u2014 all contrary to what Groff told lawmakers.\n <\/p>\n

\n Those details were part of Groff\u2019s hourslong, with the House Oversight Committee about her experience working for Epstein. She told members of the panel \u2013 which has been questioning a series of people in the convicted sex offender\u2019s orbit this year \u2013 that she never knew about Epstein\u2019s abuse of girls and women and that she was duped by his manipulation.\n <\/p>\n

\n While Groff was listed as a potential co-conspirator to Epstein as part of the controversial non-prosecution agreement struck with federal prosecutors in Florida in 2008, she has never been charged with a crime.\n <\/p>\n

\n Groff\u2019s lawyer did not respond to CNN\u2019s request for comment for this story.\n <\/p>\n

\n A spokeswoman for the House Oversight Committee told CNN that the committee is \u201ccurrently reviewing Ms. Groff\u2019s transcript against the available evidence.\u201d She added: \u201cWe welcome any additional evidence from individuals who possess information.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cLesley Groff knew what was happening in Epstein\u2019s inner circle, which is why Chairman Comer should have required her to testify under oath,\u201d Sara Guerrero, communications director for the oversight committee\u2019s top Democrat, Rep. Robert Garcia, said in a statement. \u201cLying to Congress is a crime, and anyone who does it should be held accountable, full stop.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n Groff\u2019s testimony has only fueled the frustration of Epstein survivors, many of whom are concerned that Congress\u2019 interviews with Epstein associates will not lead to more accountability. Epstein co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell is the only person who has been prosecuted in the US in relation to Epstein, and the Justice Department has said there has been insufficient evidence to pursue other charges \u2013 even after it released millions of Epstein files.\n <\/p>\n

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\n \u201cWe have so many people coming in and lying and saying they don\u2019t know, they don\u2019t remember,\u201d said Epstein survivor Marina Lacerda. \u201cCan we just have one person at least come in and take accountability and bring in full transparency?\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n Groff told members of the House Oversight Committee that Epstein had been a \u201cmaster manipulator and deceiver\u201d who had kept his abuse a secret from her, saying: \u201cFor 18 years, I worked for Dr. Jekyll but was never permitted to see the true Mr. Hyde.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n It is a crime under federal law to \u201cknowingly and willfully\u201d give \u201cmaterially\u201d false statements to Congress. The Epstein survivors CNN spoke with said it was not possible to produce corroboration for some of their claims about their interactions with Groff, which for some, took place more than two decades ago when many of the victims were teenagers and before the proliferation of smart phones.\n <\/p>\n

\n Here is what Epstein survivors said in response to some of the claims Groff made in her interview:\n <\/p>\n

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\n All six Epstein survivors CNN spoke with said they met Groff in person and were dismayed to learn of Groff\u2019s denial about ever meeting the girls and young women.\n <\/p>\n

\n Lacerda, who says she first met Epstein in 2002 when she was just shy of turning 14, said she saw Groff regularly during her years of abuse. \u201cShe\u2019s lying,\u201d she said, adding: \u201cJust me and my friends, she\u2019s met at least three or four of us.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n Sharlene Rochard, who says she was a young model working in New York City when she first met Epstein, said she met Groff \u201cmultiple times in different locations.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n Lara Blume McGee, who says she met Epstein as an aspiring model and was abused from 2001 to 2003, said she remembers meeting Groff at least twice at Epstein\u2019s townhouse, while Lisa Phillips, who says she was in her early 20s when she first met Epstein, told CNN: \u201cOf course I\u2019ve met her in person.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n One woman who spoke to CNN anonymously says she was around 14 when she first met Epstein. She said she met Groff numerous times at Epstein\u2019s New York City townhouse and that she could still clearly picture where their interactions primarily took place.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cWhen you walked in his house, right to the left of the foyer when you come in, he had his little seating area office that she was always in,\u201d she said. \u201cShe would greet you sometimes while you would sit there and wait \u2014 like basically the chairs are facing her \u2014 so I would always start conversation.\u201d\n <\/p>

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\n A second Epstein victim who spoke anonymously says she first met Epstein in 2001 when she was 20 years old. She similarly said she met Groff multiple times, including at Epstein\u2019s office in New York City.\n <\/p>\n

\n Multiple Epstein survivors vehemently pushed back on Groff\u2019s claim that she never knew any of the girls\u2019 ages.\n <\/p>\n

\n Lacerda said Groff regularly asked her detailed questions about new girls that Lacerda planned to bring to Epstein, and that Groff was sensitive to Epstein\u2019s preference for younger girls \u2013 so much so that she started asking Lacerda to tell her friends to bring their school IDs to their sessions with Epstein.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cShe would ask, \u2018What does the girl look like? Where is she from? How\u202fold\u202fis she?\u2019 over the phone,\u201d Lacerda said.\n <\/p>\n

\n Rochard said it was not possible that Groff didn\u2019t know her age, because she had Rochard\u2019s passport information to plan travel. \u201cOf course she knew how\u202fold\u202fwe were because she had to look at our IDs to book our flight,\u201d Rochard said.\n <\/p>\n

\n The second woman who spoke with CNN anonymously echoed Rochard, saying Groff had helped her apply for her first passport so that she could travel abroad. She visited Epstein\u2019s office in New York City to give Groff the necessary information for the application, she said: \u201cI sat with her and she took all my information in person. She obviously knew my age.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n However, when Groff was specifically asked by a lawmaker if she ever handled or viewed any of the girls\u2019 passports, she responded: \u201cNo.\u201d She later said she \u201cmay have seen a passport \u2013 a picture of a passport, but I never had anything to do with their passports.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n The first anonymous woman said she was also \u201c100 percent\u201d certain Groff knew that she was a minor. \u201cI went to a private Catholic school and she would always ask me to leave school early,\u201d she said. Epstein liked to see her in her school uniform, and that she said there were many times when Groff saw her wearing her uniform.\n <\/p>\n

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\n Multiple Epstein survivors said getting paid by Groff was a feature of their time with Epstein. Lacerda said it was often Groff who gave her cash, particularly when Epstein was out of town.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cShe would put it in a long white envelope and the cash would always be in hundreds. Never in twenties, never in fives, never in tens \u2014 like it just came out the bank,\u201d she said. Lacerda said that the payments took place at Epstein\u2019s New York City office on the stairs, and that Groff \u201cwould hand the envelope over and we would leave. And we would know, like, not to stay very long there because we knew that we were young and we did not belong there.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n The first anonymous woman also said she received money in envelopes from Groff, and that it happened frequently. \u201cWe would go pick up money from Lesley every other day. Not even for massage \u2014 just because. We had no money unless we brought a girl,\u201d she said.\n <\/p>\n

\n Phillips told CNN it was \u201cimpossible\u201d for Groff to claim that she never gave the girls money, explaining that she went to Epstein\u2019s office to pick up checks for school tuition from Groff.\n <\/p>\n

\n The first anonymous woman, who said she was abused by Epstein starting in the early 2000s, said she saw Groff at Epstein\u2019s townhouse many times. \u201cIs she kidding? Unless I\u2019m hallucinating and she has a twin,\u201d she said.\n <\/p>\n

\n Blume McGee, who said she was abused by Epstein in the early 2000s, said she saw Groff in person at least twice and that it was only at Epstein\u2019s townhouse.\n <\/p>\n

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\n Lacerda and the first anonymous woman both said they went to Epstein\u2019s New York City office on numerous occasions to pick up Broadway tickets from Groff. \u201cShe would meet us in the staircase and she always would hand us over a white envelope,\u201d Lacerda said.\n <\/p>\n

\n She said she once walked out of \u201cPhantom of the Opera\u201d because she didn\u2019t enjoy it.\n <\/p>

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