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\n Michigan Democratic Senate front-runner Abdul El-Sayed has faced criticism for previous comments hemade about defunding the police. In recent interviews, El-Sayed has insisted he \u201cnever, never called for defunding\u201d the police. Last week in an interview with CNN\u2019s Kasie Hunt, he said he deleted old tweets supporting the movement because they were taken \u201cout of context,\u201d calling them \u201cclickbait in DC.\u201d\n <\/p>

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\n But interviews from 2020 show El-Sayed repeatedly endorsed defunding the police, according to a CNN KFile review of his media appearances. \u201cWe do need to defund the police,\u201d El-Sayed said in a 2020 radio interview while specifically discussing how the slogan could undermine criminal justice reform efforts.\n <\/p>\n

\n El-Sayed\u2019s interviews from 2020 and 2021 show him embracing the \u201cdefund the police\u201d movement \u2014 not just uttering the phrase but supporting the key principle of reinvesting funds from the police into other public-sector spaces such as mental health and anti-poverty efforts.\n <\/p>\n

\n His comments came during the height of the defund movement\u2019s popularity following George Floyd\u2019s murder in May 2020. While the movement gained traction among progressives, it remained politically unpopular with the broader public.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cWe are in a moment where a lot of our public conversation gets chewed down into 280 characters or less,\u201d El-Sayed said in June 2020 on Detroit Public Radio, arguing it was better to explain what needed to be done than hedging \u201cbehind a hashtag.\u201dEl-Sayed at the time was a public health advocate, podcast host and Detroit\u2019s former public health director. \n<\/p>\n

\n \u201cI believe that we do need to defund the police in so far as defunding the police is disinvesting in the means of incarcerating someone or killing them on the streets,\u201d he added. \u201cAnd in investing more in the means of educating and empowering, engaging communities with the means of being able to take on systemic poverty, that we\u2019ve allowed systematic racism to allow to fester in too many communities.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n El-Sayed added it meant investing less money in police.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cWhat if we were to invest in social services? What if we were to invest in public schools? What if we were to invest in public libraries? What would the world look like there? And I think that has to be the way we go. And that means both investing more in these services, and it also means investing less in police,\u201d he said.\n <\/p>\n

\n Roxie Richner, a spokesperson for his campaign, pointed to El-Sayed\u2019s public health experience working with local law enforcement in Wayne County, Michigan, and told CNN in a statement that \u201chis perspective has become more nuanced.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cOne simple word has never been enough to fully explain the reforms we need for a challenge as complex as our criminal legal system,\u201d Richner said.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cJust as he did in Wayne County in 2023, Abdul believes we need to improve law enforcement recruitment, retention, and retirement funding so that law enforcement officers come from the communities they serve. He also believes we must reject militarized policing, pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, and opt for community violence intervention, behavioral health response, and improvements in public health to reduce violence and protect the lives of communities and law enforcement alike.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n Drawing fire as front-runner\n<\/h2>\n

\n El-Sayed has emerged as the Democratic front-runner ahead of Michigan\u2019s August 4 primary in one of the country\u2019s most closely watched Senate races. He will face US Rep. Haley Stevens after state Sen. Mallory McMorrow dropped out Sunday.\n <\/p>\n

\n El-Sayed and Stevens are scheduled to face off Tuesday night in a statewide televised debate.\n <\/p>\n

\n The winner of the Democratic primary is expected to face Republican former Rep. Mike Rogers in November. In a battleground state carried by President Donald Trump in two of the last three elections, including 2024, Michigan Republicans are likely to scrutinize Democrats\u2019 past positions on crime and policing.\n <\/p>\n

\n El-Sayed, a 41-year-old progressive activist, served as the lead public health official for the Detroit Health Department and later as the head of Wayne County\u2019s Department of Health, Human and Veterans Services. He also hosted a podcast, \u201cAmerica Dissected,\u201d and served as a CNN contributor.\n <\/p>\n

\n Even in 2020, polling repeatedly showed policies advocating to \u201cdefund the police\u201d were extremely unpopular. A Fox News poll from July 2020 showed that 82% of surveyed Michigan registered voters had a favorable view of their local police. A 2021 Axios\/Ipsos poll found that just 27% of respondents supported the \u201cdefund the police\u201d movement as of April 2021, with 70% opposed to it.\n <\/p>\n

\n When asked last week by CNN\u2019s Kasie Hunt on whether he still supported defunding the police, El-Sayed did not directly answer but said his tweets were taken out of context.\n <\/p>\n

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\n \u201cI deleted all the tweets because I didn\u2019t want them to be taken out of context like this so that you could distract from the actual conversation that Michiganders really want to have about what they want their leadership to actually fight for them to do,\u201d El-Sayed said.\n <\/p>

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\n Pressed twice by Hunt on whether he still supports defunding the police, El-Sayed did not directly answer. Instead, he said voters should judge him by his record running Wayne County\u2019s Department of Health, Human and Veterans Services, saying he \u201cfunded the system because it needed to be funded.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cI think this debate about 2020 and the ways that tweets are going to play are really nice on CNN if you want to get clicks,\u201d he added. \u201cThey\u2019re not that effective, and nobody really asks me about them on the streets or in communities in Michigan. So, if you want to talk about housing or health care or corporate dominance in our politics, I think those are a lot more legitimate questions that people are actually asking me about what they want their next senator to do in the state of Michigan, rather than for clickbait in DC.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n The interview came after El-Sayed previously sought to distance himself from the slogan after CNN reported on his deleted tweets in November 2025.\n<\/p>\n

\n In an interview with the Detroit News shortly after the article was published, he said, \u201cI want to be clear, I actually never, never called for defunding. My goal in that conversation was to help everybody to understand what we were talking about.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n But the deleted tweets CNN reported show El-Sayed repeatedly embraced the substance of the defund movement, even when he framed it as \u201crefunding\u201d other public services. CNN tallied thousands of deleted tweets, including about a dozen in support of the \u201cdefund the police\u201d movement.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cMost major US cities spend WAY TOO MUCH on police departments to police poverty & WAY TOO LITTLE on public schools, health departments, recreation departments, & housing to eliminate poverty. Fixing that is what the #Defund movement is about,\u201d El-Sayed wrote in a since-deleted post from June 2020.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cThe police have become standing armies we deploy against our own people,\u201d he added in another June 2020 post.\n <\/p>\n

\n Interviews echoed his tweets\n<\/h2>\n

\nEl-Sayed\u2019s deleted tweets were not his only public expressions of support for defunding the police.\n <\/p>\n

\n Throughout 2020, he repeatedly endorsed some of the movement\u2019s goals in interviews, speeches and writings, often describing them as shifting government resources away from policing and incarceration and toward public health, education and anti-poverty programs.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cThe question becomes, where are the places that we as a society ought to invest? Should we be investing in militarized police \u2014 police that have military materiel \u2014 or should we be investing in mental health services, poverty reduction, food, walkability, higher-quality air and better access to water?\u201d he said in November 2020 when speaking to a college group, according to the Manistee News Advocate, a local newspaper.\n <\/p>\n

\n And in May 2021, El-Sayed wrote on his Substack that instead of having productive conversations to combat rising crime, the discussion \u201cwill likely reduce back to the debate about policing.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cThe irony of this is that those advocating for reductions in police budgets aren\u2019t doing so in a vacuum: they\u2019re advocating for those dollars to be invested in taking on exactly the same causes of insecurity that the pandemic exacerbated that underlie so many of its consequences, like crime,\u201d he wrote. \u201cSmaller police budgets mean more investment in housing, childcare, food assistance, and income support.\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n An epidemiologist, El-Sayed often framed \u201csystemic racism and police brutality\u201d as a public health issue. In the summer of 2020, El-Sayed was a contributor in an online University of Michigan seminar on police brutality in America.\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cSo we have to ask ourselves, do police departments really need tanks and weapons of war and the materiel that\u2019s coming back as hand-me-downs from the military abroad? Do police really need to use guns? Do we need as much of a police force?\u201d he said at the seminar.\n <\/p>\n

\n He continued, \u201cWhen we talk about the question of quote-un-quote \u2018defunding the police,\u2019 it\u2019s a question of asking, how do we right-size government away from the racist ideologies that have led us to investing in war materiel for policing rather than public health for children?\u201d\n <\/p>\n

\n \u201cDefunding the police is disinvesting in the means of incarcerating someone or killing them on the streets and investing more in the means of educating and empowering engaging communities,\u201d El-Sayed said in another 2020 local press interview.\n <\/p>

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